What matters in HoM for gw2? - Guild Wars Forums

The Josip · Jun 07, 2010, 06:19 PM // 18:19

20 devoted miniatures.
5 displayed heroes or pets.
5 titles or accomplishments.
5 prestige armor sets.
11 destroyer / tormented weapons.

This is confirmed requirements for the bonus in GW2, whatever that may be.

There is no indication or confirmation, from ANet, that GWAMM is needed or something like that. Although My Guild Hall Smells of Rich Mahogany changes the look of the statue.

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This is correct, right?

As much as some want GWAMM to give some bonus in GW2, there has been no indication, direct or indirect that it is needed for GW2 bonus?

Benderama · Jun 07, 2010, 07:36 PM // 19:36

i didn't think you needed a full HoM for any bonus in GW2? is that confirmed?
it would be easier on the casual players to reward a player on each individual statue in the HoM?

hnkelau · Jun 07, 2010, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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This is confirmed requirements for the bonus in GW2, whatever that may be.

Source of this?

kupp · Jun 07, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Benderama

i didn't think you needed a full HoM for any bonus in GW2? is that confirmed?
it would be easier on the casual players to reward a player on each individual statue in the HoM?

What I've heard the most is that you need a full monument, and by full I mean all available spots in each of the 5 filled and not to get EVERYTHING in the game in there, since that's actually impossible given the promotional and limited minis (unless they don't count those in, but it's still stupid givent he colossal amount of gold and time you'd need).

So that's 20 minis, 5 companions, etc.

But afaik, it's actually unknown. Everyone speculates and the above is what makes the most sense.

The Josip · Jun 07, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Obviously there's a reason why you can only display X amount of something in the monument. There's also a reason why you can display titles at a 'breakpoint', like r4, and no need for rMax.

But I'm really asking a simple question: is there any indication or a quote that GWAMM may be needed? I assume not, I guess it would be noticed already.

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 07, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

hopefully u get rewarded for individual titles, etc. not just full monuments, seeing as some accomplishments way harder to achieve than others. hopefully...

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Originally Posted by The Josip

As much as some want GWAMM to give some bonus in GW2, there has been no indication, direct or indirect that it is needed for GW2 bonus?

as for any indication that gwamm may be a measure of reward, i would think that the display of ur gwamm title when u enter the hall and the change in the statue based on ur gwamm title would be an indirect indication that you would get rewarded for it in gw2

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Originally Posted by The Josip

Obviously there's a reason why you can only display X amount of something in the monument.

yeah, because it would be difficult to have 30-40 statues showing all at once... Most obvious reason i can think of.

The Josip · Jun 07, 2010, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

as for any indication that gwamm may be a measure of reward, i would think that the display of ur gwamm title when u enter the hall and the change in the statue based on ur gwamm title would be an indirect indication that you would get rewarded for it in gw2

Possibly, but I think I was not accurate enough.

GWAMM = r6 of the title. I didn't mean "maxed titles" rank in itself.

Statue changes only up to r5, and AFAIK, nothing changes when you go from r5 to r6.

Dzjudz · Jun 07, 2010, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by The Josip

Statue changes only up to r5, and AFAIK, nothing changes when you go from r5 to r6.

Yeah I was pretty sad when I got GWAMM that the monument didn't change and that there isn't even a statue for GWAMM like other max titles...

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 07, 2010, 08:33 PM // 20:33

still, the fact the your hall appearance changes based on progression through your gwamm title could be an indication that you will get rewarded in gw2 based on the rank you have in gwamm. As your hall appearance changes based on your progressive accomplishments, so would the rewards that you would receive change. I wouldn't rule out gwamm not giving you rewards, it is entirely possible.

BrettM · Jun 07, 2010, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Benderama

it would be easier on the casual players to reward a player on each individual statue in the HoM?

There are over 30 statues just for titles, plus the statues for campaign and elite area completion. There are 25 heroes, plus generic pet statue, plus special pet statues. IIRC, there are somewhere around 90 minis. And there are 22 different weapons possible, counting both Destroyer and Tormented.

Add all of this up, and ANet would have to come up with around 200 rewards. I just don't see it as likely that they would put this kind of effort into it, and it seems incredibly greedy to expect it. I expect only a handful of possible rewards. Perhaps one for each filled monument, and maybe a few special rewards for certain accomplishments (such as GWAMM).

Deratrius · Jun 07, 2010, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I don't want to ruin any hopes or anything but does anyone have reliable sources that say anything about a specific reward from having a more complete HoM?

I don't remember reading anything saying we would get a game advantage from completing our HoM, more like we would be able to show off.

I think we will get something like a special mini or maybe an exclusive emote, not an in game advantage.

FoxBat · Jun 07, 2010, 08:50 PM // 20:50

It's no effort at all for them to make exclusive titles appear under your name, or copy GW1 art assets for minis (since they are just using an evolved version of the same engine.)

- GWAMM is at present likely not tracked independently of your character. The GWAMM display counts the number of titles on your character, not number of titles enshrined in the HoM. It is also not account-wide displayable wheras all monuments are. Finally it is not itself a monument nor can you choose to enshrine it, and only monuments have explicitly been mentioned to link to GW2. It's very likely Anet is just going to want to look at people's account HoM storage and not have to dig up individual character data files when doing the transfer. At this time I would say the means for transferring GWAMM directly to GW2 does not exist, and if these were wanted, a simple GWAMM monument would be added to the

On the other hand, this could be because they want to support "rebuilding" GWAMM- I.E. in GW2 it simply counts the number/type of enshrined honor monuments, calculates your GWAMM based on that, and grants you a displayable title as appropriate.

majoho · Jun 07, 2010, 09:11 PM // 21:11

No point in even discussing this since no one knows.

Smarty · Jun 07, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I'm still waiting for confirmation that (a) it doesn't matter what specific titles/minis/weapons etc go into each display and that (b) a display is counted as full when you've got as many things added to it as there are visible display slots rather than when it won't let you add anything else to the list.

In other words, someone who's got all PvP titles displayed compared to someone with all PvE, or someone with an island guardian and a panda displayed compared to someone with a whiptail and a jade; or someone with both destroyer and tormented weapon sets compared to someone with only one set, or someone with all 13 armours compared to someone with just the 5 that can be displayed - would both people in each of the four pairs get the same reward, or would person A in each pair get a different reward to person B?

majoho · Jun 07, 2010, 09:24 PM // 21:24

And who should answer those questions when NO ONE knows?

aefghuys · Jun 07, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

i dont have a link but i remember reading somewhere that titlewise...the main 2 to get that would transfer were gwamm and ldoa... not sure about a full hom, but im sure that gets something

Highlander Of Alba · Jun 07, 2010, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Just look up hall of monuments and read what it says,

Dont skip over here is a segment

Link to Guild Wars 2
This feature does not allow characters to be transferred between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. However, it does allow character names to be reserved.
It does not support bulk transfer of armor, items, characters, or gold. However, acquiring select items in GW1 will confer benefits in GW2 via the Hall of Monuments.
Each of your GW1 characters has its own Hall of Monuments. However, the rewards will be "unlocked" account-wide and will transfer to your GW2 account, and it is possible to display all monuments attained on one account in GW1. Accomplishments dedicated in GW1's Hall of Monuments will continue to update your GW2 account even after GW2's release.

Warvic · Jun 07, 2010, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Titles like GWAMM and LDOA for example, should get rewards on their own. Actually. Every title should IMO.

For the rest. Max armor statue = 5 pts. 1 pt for every armor (max = 5). U can get 1 piece of armor with 1 point at an collector in GW2.
Same for weapons.
Heroes statues. Dunno.
Pets. If they don't have any NEW minipets in GW2. Just let everyone be able to choose GW1 pets. Customized and non tradable.

The Josip · Jun 07, 2010, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Warvic

Titles like GWAMM and LDOA for example, should get rewards on their own. Actually. Every title should IMO.

They should not, and why would they?

Besides, GWAMM and LDOA? Good part about grind is that 5 days later all the grinding is useless and in vain. GW2 is going to be fresh and no grinding achievements will matter in any way. Requirement to display some titles in HoM is very low, which proves my point.

And some of you have unrealistic and silly view of how HoM rewards will look like. You will NOT get bonus for each item and display. You will get 1 reward for each HoM section / tapestry filled. Which means that if you can display 5 prestige armor sets at one time, achieving that - 5, and no less no more - will give you some fashion bonus in GW2 - maybe a special title, maybe special emoticon, maybe special piece of clothing, maybe special minipet. You will not get +20 damage vs something boost.

Now my question was whether, besides these tapestries, there would be some bonus to r6 GWAMM itself, or not. It wasn't about what everyone's fantasy about HoM is. Since no one knows if there was any indication from ANet that GWAMM would matter in any way, thread can be closed.

tijo · Jun 08, 2010, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by The Josip

And some of you have unrealistic and silly view of how HoM rewards will look like. You will NOT get bonus for each item and display. You will get 1 reward for each HoM section / tapestry filled. Which means that if you can display 5 prestige armor sets at one time, achieving that - 5, and no less no more - will give you some fashion bonus in GW2 - maybe a special title, maybe special emoticon, maybe special piece of clothing, maybe special minipet. You will not get +20 damage vs something boost.

If you have official info to back your claim, post it. Otherwise, as long as there is no official information on how things will transfer, everything is pretty much speculation.

The only thing that seems logical and very likely to happen is that all rewards will be purely cosmetic and won't give any gameplay advantage.

Jun 07, 2010, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#1
The Josip Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2009 Profession: Me/	What matters in HoM for gw2? 20 devoted miniatures. 5 displayed heroes or pets. 5 titles or accomplishments. 5 prestige armor sets. 11 destroyer / tormented weapons. This is confirmed requirements for the bonus in GW2, whatever that may be. There is no indication or confirmation, from ANet, that GWAMM is needed or something like that. Although My Guild Hall Smells of Rich Mahogany changes the look of the statue. --- This is correct, right? As much as some want GWAMM to give some bonus in GW2, there has been no indication, direct or indirect that it is needed for GW2 bonus?

Jun 07, 2010, 08:50 PM // 20:50	#12
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	It's no effort at all for them to make exclusive titles appear under your name, or copy GW1 art assets for minis (since they are just using an evolved version of the same engine.) - GWAMM is at present likely not tracked independently of your character. The GWAMM display counts the number of titles on your character, not number of titles enshrined in the HoM. It is also not account-wide displayable wheras all monuments are. Finally it is not itself a monument nor can you choose to enshrine it, and only monuments have explicitly been mentioned to link to GW2. It's very likely Anet is just going to want to look at people's account HoM storage and not have to dig up individual character data files when doing the transfer. At this time I would say the means for transferring GWAMM directly to GW2 does not exist, and if these were wanted, a simple GWAMM monument would be added to the On the other hand, this could be because they want to support "rebuilding" GWAMM- I.E. in GW2 it simply counts the number/type of enshrined honor monuments, calculates your GWAMM based on that, and grants you a displayable title as appropriate. Last edited by FoxBat; Jun 07, 2010 at 09:15 PM // 21:15..

Jun 07, 2010, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#2
Benderama Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Guild: [Rage] Profession: Rt/	i didn't think you needed a full HoM for any bonus in GW2? is that confirmed? it would be easier on the casual players to reward a player on each individual statue in the HoM?

Jun 07, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14	#5
The Josip Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2009 Profession: Me/	Obviously there's a reason why you can only display X amount of something in the monument. There's also a reason why you can display titles at a 'breakpoint', like r4, and no need for rMax. But I'm really asking a simple question: is there any indication or a quote that GWAMM may be needed? I assume not, I guess it would be noticed already.

Jun 07, 2010, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#9
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	still, the fact the your hall appearance changes based on progression through your gwamm title could be an indication that you will get rewarded in gw2 based on the rank you have in gwamm. As your hall appearance changes based on your progressive accomplishments, so would the rewards that you would receive change. I wouldn't rule out gwamm not giving you rewards, it is entirely possible.

Jun 07, 2010, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#11
Deratrius Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Mystic Discipline [MD] Profession: Mo/	I don't want to ruin any hopes or anything but does anyone have reliable sources that say anything about a specific reward from having a more complete HoM? I don't remember reading anything saying we would get a game advantage from completing our HoM, more like we would be able to show off. I think we will get something like a special mini or maybe an exclusive emote, not an in game advantage.

Jun 07, 2010, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#13
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	No point in even discussing this since no one knows.

Jun 07, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17	#14
Smarty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Profession: Me/	I'm still waiting for confirmation that (a) it doesn't matter what specific titles/minis/weapons etc go into each display and that (b) a display is counted as full when you've got as many things added to it as there are visible display slots rather than when it won't let you add anything else to the list. In other words, someone who's got all PvP titles displayed compared to someone with all PvE, or someone with an island guardian and a panda displayed compared to someone with a whiptail and a jade; or someone with both destroyer and tormented weapon sets compared to someone with only one set, or someone with all 13 armours compared to someone with just the 5 that can be displayed - would both people in each of the four pairs get the same reward, or would person A in each pair get a different reward to person B?

Jun 07, 2010, 09:24 PM // 21:24	#15
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	And who should answer those questions when NO ONE knows?

Jun 07, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30	#16
aefghuys Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Guild: Obon Profession: D/P	i dont have a link but i remember reading somewhere that titlewise...the main 2 to get that would transfer were gwamm and ldoa... not sure about a full hom, but im sure that gets something

Jun 07, 2010, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#17
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Just look up hall of monuments and read what it says, Dont skip over here is a segment Link to Guild Wars 2 This feature does not allow characters to be transferred between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. However, it does allow character names to be reserved. It does not support bulk transfer of armor, items, characters, or gold. However, acquiring select items in GW1 will confer benefits in GW2 via the Hall of Monuments. Each of your GW1 characters has its own Hall of Monuments. However, the rewards will be "unlocked" account-wide and will transfer to your GW2 account, and it is possible to display all monuments attained on one account in GW1. Accomplishments dedicated in GW1's Hall of Monuments will continue to update your GW2 account even after GW2's release.

Jun 07, 2010, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#18
Warvic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Netherlands Profession: A/W	Titles like GWAMM and LDOA for example, should get rewards on their own. Actually. Every title should IMO. For the rest. Max armor statue = 5 pts. 1 pt for every armor (max = 5). U can get 1 piece of armor with 1 point at an collector in GW2. Same for weapons. Heroes statues. Dunno. Pets. If they don't have any NEW minipets in GW2. Just let everyone be able to choose GW1 pets. Customized and non tradable.